Zan's one of the best naturals around. Really nice "I love women' vibe that he projects in his interactions.
He has his own site here
This is a golden technique for when you see your relationship start to go down the drain and gives you a safety valve to set her up as a fuck buddy.. or as one of your MLTRs.. this shit should be illegal.. :-)
I don't know if this has been suggested before. I have read most of TFM and lots of the archive and don't remember seeing anything like it, so I'm sorry if this is not new.
(Subconscious interjection: Move through life without apology, Zan!)
Wait a minute! I take that apology back.
I haven't heard anyone mention something like this but IME, it is a very powerful technique. Here is the essence of it: Profess your undying affection and devotion to the girl - and then NEXT her.
When to use this? When you have seen her several times, you have had great rapport, but now it feels like she is starting to flake. If your thing with a girl was hot at one time (she tongued you down, lots of EV and talking, etc), but now you sense the whole thing is starting to drift towards LJBF land, and you have nothing else to lose, try this. It just might help to resurrect a moribund relationship with a girl.
Or if you really like a girl but you have done some stupid AFC moves (and who among us haven't?) and she is starting to lose interest, try this.
I have used this before to devastating effect. It sounds very AFC at first blush, but hear me out. Notice the difference between these two paragraphs (which I just made up and are cheesy, but it's just to illustrate what I mean):
AFC: I think about you day and night. You are so beautiful and I adore you. I can't wait to see you again.
PUA: I think about you day and night. You are so beautiful and I adore you. But now I must go. You have touched me on a very deep level and it is more than I can bear. I am helpless before other women and I will only hurt you and myself. I can't see you anymore.
Say the first phrase to a girl and she thinks "Ha ha, I have a yappy new lapdog. Buy me dinner!" Zero challenge; she has already won.
Say the second phrase and it throws her into a whirlwind of emotions. Her whole world becomes the cover of a romance novel. Her nurturing instinct kicks into high gear (after all, you are a victim of your desires and she must save you). She knows she is about to lose you. And she senses that you are about to run to the arms of ten other women for comfort.
It is very powerful. But the key is that she has to know that you really mean it. It has to be believable. You are *really* not going to see her anymore. And you should believe it too. After all, it was going cold already anyway and she was probably going to LJBF you.
And this is important - say it and then split. Get the hell out of Dodge. What I have found is that in a lot of cases, she will become obsessed with you. You will be bombarded with emails and phone calls from her. It is almost impossible for her to resist this challenge.
She almost certainly will try to coax you back. But only if you do this move while your rapport is still fairly strong and things are still going reasonably well between you two when you ditch her.
And when she contacts you, you must remain congruent and never let her feel she has you. From this point on. And the beauty is that you *can* go back to seeing her, but now you are the one with value. You are the prize. And you are the one that appears ready to leave at any moment. She WILL work to keep you.
And you have established the fact that you see other women and you can't help it. And she can't complain about this because you told her the way you are and that she might get hurt. But she still wants you anyway.
I pulled this on a girl recently. We were making out and I was kissing her neck and stuff and we were both feeling really good.
Using a poem from the manual (and slightly altering it), I said something like:
ME: (kissing her neck and talking very slowly) You know what I am, HB? I am your teardrop... I was conceived in your heart... I was born in your eyes... I live on your cheeks... and I will die on your lips.
Then while lightly kissing her lips, I said some variation of the adoration / Nexting phrase I mentioned earlier. And then I got up and took off.
This girl was almost certainly going to flake out on me, but now she calls me every night, wants to see me, understands that she is not exclusive, wants to save me, etc.
In fact, I have used this as a way to establish almost every one of my MLTRs.
Try it...
Zan
Credit Zan Perrion Official website here
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Saturday, 19 January 2008
C&F material - off various archives
Some C&F material that should be required reading.. makes the PU process a lot easier if you have a lets laugh with the little girl vibe..
this ones by SIlver off MASF and he's rooted around the archives to get this stuff..
It was sort of a bitch to look up all this shit in the Archives so I fugured I would just post a compilation of the stuff. Teasing is a great way to get into a girls pants and here are some awsome ways to do it. Straight out the Dungeons here is good teasing material thanks everyone who posted this stuff before me. Please If you have any of your own good tease openers post them or add them to this.
This is very very long, and not all that congruent
Negs and teasing are different! A neg is delivered completely dead-pan and
seriously. It is meant to show absolutely no interest whatsoever.
A tease is a play-fight flirt (say that five times fast) of varying degree
depending on the situation. It is NOT meant to show non-interest.
- Accuse her of trying to seduce you, coming on to you, etc.
Misconstrue her innocent behavior as shameless flirting (the more
absurdly, the better). Then flirt outrageously, but deny any
interest, and present your behavior as innocent (again, the more
absurdly, the better). Run your finger slowly up and down her
arm; if she accuses you of flirting or being interested, tell her
you're just checking for needle marks.
- "I have a question...no, never mind; I can't ask that." If she
insists, ask something utterly outrageous about her sex life. If
she reacts badly, say "Hey, you dragged it out of me! It's all
YOUR fault!" (Pause for response.) "First you make me say it,
then you complain...one bad behavior after another! That's it,
you're on probation."
- Read her palm or analyze her handwriting. Say "OOH!! THAT is
interesting!!" When she asks what, say "I don't think you could
handle it. It might be too much for you." No matter what she
says, don't tell her.
- Tell her her shoes are untied if she's wearing pumps, her fly is
down if she's wearing a skirt, she has a run in her stockings if
she's wearing pants. Make fun of her if she looks.
- If she sits down near you, tell her the chair is taken. Repeat
for every chair she tries to sit in. If she asks, the occupant
is in the bathroom. ALL the chairs are occupied by people in
the bathroom.
- Throw food, sugar packets, etc. at her when she's not looking.
Complain about how mean she is for not playing catch with you, and
how bad it makes you feel when she refuses to play by not catching
what you throw. Make your lower lip quiver if you can.
- Do high fives with her, then complain that she's not doing them
with feeling.
- Call her "Megan the meanie" (or whatever her name is) if she won't
flirt or do what you want. Works especially well if you talk and
act like a five-year-old.
- On any provocation, playfully: "I'm gonna have to kick your
ass!" or "Don't make me kick your ass!" Then, if it's appropriate,
wrestle her down.
- Move in to kiss, then throw your finger in front of her lips and
gently push her back.
Okay, guys, hopefully I've primed the pump...what are your ideas and
best teasing stories?
Thanks,
Ash
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Before you buy. Teasing is how I'm used to getting all the girls I currently get -
acting very cheeky and playfully arrogant. Combined with alpha male
purposeness, it works well with young girls.
All of your examples were very cool. I also go sexual with as much of
the teasing as I can, because the girls do picture all the things you
joke about, and those mental images of you get them going. And that's
when you poke them in jest, and establish kino.
I try to make fun of them alot also. I wish I could think of some
examples. Hmm, just teasing them, and telling them that you bet they'd
like things to happen, that you know they don't. And just obviously
bullshitting answers to questions they ask you - making up ridiculous
stories. And also bragging about yourself sexually alot, like about
your attractiveness and stuff...
Like if HBs ever compliment anything about me, I do this...
HB: "I like your accent"
ME: "thanks, I work out" (smiling cheekily)
and I'll answer that to any compliment at all, and they like it.
ME: Oh, you'd love that wouldn't you?
HB: (laughing) no, of course not.
ME: Yes, you would. You'd be in as fast as you could...etc
HB: No!!
You can answer many questions by saying how sexy you are, and how hot
you are, and playfully act like that's what people think and that's
how things are.
Also if you break into a scottish accent and say, "I'm dead sexy I am"
a bunch of times, it goes over well.
Each time you tease her with a comment, you touch her and poke her and
stuff.
If you say any of these comments and she starts to get angry or
pretends to be, I just put on a deep man-voice and say "You LOVE IT".
And this normally gets them going even more, but while laughing.
If she says anything positive for herself you can turn it around by
saying, "yup, just keep telling yourself that "
Teasing I find is great for stupid girls, because you're still having a
good time despite her stupidity. You're playing with her, rather than
talking to her - which is much more entertaining with dumbshits. I've
had many a fine evening out with a beautiful member of the lower end of
the bell curve, just thanks to the joys of teasing.
Now, I think it works because it establishes to her that you're
confident, that you don't need her, and you're a strong person. It
shows you have a little more power than her. But all this has to be
done with confidence and cheekiness. That I've found is the most
important thing. I make sure my state is confident yet cheeky, with a
bit of a sly grin.
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Before you buy.
>- Accuse her of trying to seduce you, coming on to you, etc.
> Misconstrue her innocent behavior as shameless flirting (the more
> absurdly, the better). Then flirt outrageously, but deny any
> interest, and present your behavior as innocent (again, the more
> absurdly, the better).
This works a treat. This can lead into a sex role reversal "I'm not
that easy you know. Stop trying to smooth talk me just so I'll sleep
with you" etc.
>Run your finger slowly up and down her
> arm; if she accuses you of flirting or being interested, tell her
> you're just checking for needle marks.
>- "I have a question...no, never mind; I can't ask that." If she
> insists, ask something utterly outrageous about her sex life. If
> she reacts badly, say "Hey, you dragged it out of me! It's all
> YOUR fault!" (Pause for response.) "First you make me say it,
> then you complain...one bad behavior after another! That's it,
> you're on probation."
Ask her in a disinterested way what she thinks makes someone good at
oral sex. If she starts talking about what makes a man good, switch it
after a while to her blowjob technique. Arouse her curiousity until
she can't wait to become your student.
>- Tell her her shoes are untied if she's wearing pumps, her fly is
> down if she's wearing a skirt, she has a run in her stockings if
> she's wearing pants.
> Make fun of her if she looks.
Have to try this one.
>- On any provocation, playfully: "I'm gonna have to kick your
> ass!" or "Don't make me kick your ass!" Then, if it's appropriate,
> wrestle her down.
A variation on this is "don't make me pin you down and do you. You
know it's what you want but just control yourself, okay?"
Works especially well after you have already had sex with them.
>Okay, guys, hopefully I've primed the pump...what are your ideas and
>best teasing stories?
Excellent post. Lots of great ideas.
Using the NLP "pink elephant" theory. Accuse her of being obsessed
with sex (for no apparent reason or when she makes the slightest
innuendo). And tell her stuff like
"Stop thinking about sex. Don't think about me kissing up your thigh,
spreading your legs" etc. etc.
Putting on a sleazy voice and saying "outrageous" things like "you
know you want it bay-beeee" can work very well.
I am familiar with the whole Neg Theory here. And it's really nothing new
as I have pointed out before. In fact some cultures are Masters at this. It
also dates back to a time when peasants and slaves couldn't really say what
was on their mind, so they would disguise their intentions in some
long-winded, flowery sounding bullshit that sounded like a compliment, but
was designed to bring the target down a notch. Some Arab cultures are very
good at this to this day.
Before I found ASF, I always had very good results from more direct
Teasing and Insults. Of course it's mostly done in a good-natured sort of
way. AND you can completely alienate some chicks with this tactic.
I seem to have a sixth sense when it comes to WHO this will work on. My
intuition just seems to tell me when this tactic will work. My mind must be
keying-in on little telltale signs that I'm not completely aware of? This
is one reason that I am posting this. I am looking for feedback from the
group. I have not been able to come-up with a reliable road map for others
as to what type of chick this works on. It ABSOLUTELY seems to work on many
of the HOTTEST HBs.
I remember years ago, a friend and I went to a Strip Club in Texas. I
didn't have time to tell him ALL my theories on doing strippers, so I told
him just to "RAG" on ALL of them, and the tactic should stick on at least
ONE of them.
My friend ended up being MUCH harder with his insults and teasing than I
usually am. And most of the girls in the bar were asking me why my friend
is such an ASSHOLE. BUT, it wasn't long before the FINEST HB10 stripper in
the bar was litterally THROWING herself at him. I don't remember everything
he said to her, but I do remember him calling her "Chicken Legs" quite
often.
I think she asked him to dance, and he said that she had chicken legs and
would probably just lay an egg in his lap or something.
To make a long story short, she did everything she could to try to win his
approval, and at the end of the night, she litterally jumped into the truck
with us and asked where we were going. She was so desperate to win him over
that she fucked BOTH of us, at his suggestion.
I have hundred of such stories that illustrate how powerfull this method
is. More recently, I used it on a Hooters Waitress....
I thought that she was the MOST attractive HB in the place...
HB: Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot your water, I'll get it.
Me: That's good because you really don't want to get on my bad side?
HB: What? Why is that?
Me: Well, I'm part Indian!
HB: (with a confused look) What does that have to do with anything?
Me: I'm a member of the "Slap-a-ho" Tribe. (Got this from a black comic.
Can't remember his name)
HB: (laughing) I'm NOT a HO ! ( you have to remember that this Hooters
was FULL of AFCs drooling over these fine bitches and acting all "proper".)
Me: Yeah, I bet you've seen more ceilings than Michealangelo!
HB: (Laughing) Leaves and goes over to the cash register to tell some of
the other girls what I said and they start laughing. Some of the other HBs
start coming over to our table to Kick-It with us.
HB: returns and says "Here's your water, you're not going to slap me are
you?"
Me: Slapping is only ONE option. Remember, the "Slap-a-ho" tribe is a
member of the "SPANK-A-HO" NATION. Then I made some sort of comment
comparing her to a Mac Computer because "You are USER FRIENDLY". Which I
guess is a sort of embedded command.
To make a long story short, I continued to DOG her at the amusement of all
the other Hooters girls. The TARGET began throwing herself at me and
invited me to a "Get Together" after work. I continued to DOG her even
after fucking her.
I remember laying in bed with her after fucking her and watching the Cindy
Margolis show. I made a comment that Cindy is a Hot Bitch and I started
jacking-off under the covers while watching Cindy on TV. I did this just to
fuck with HBHooters mind and she came unglued. She jumped on my cock with
her face and ended up giving me a fuck that was ten times better than the
one before. She even took it up the ass which was virgin territory.
Anyway, I was interested in hearing other people's experiences in making an
HB the butt of your jokes and insults.
I know that it is ASF dogma NOT to insinuate that a chick is a slut. BUT,
for some of the hotter ones, the phsychological button that is pushed by
the jokes and teasing seems to be much stronger than the "Slut Factor". Oh,
by the way, HBHooters was only 23. Young enough to be my daughter! Put
that in your pipe and "Smoke-It" Mystery!
Also, have you older guys noticed that HBs tend to think that YOU are MUCH
better in bed than their YOUNGER "boyfriends" ? Maybe it's experience?
Michael S.
PS Also, ATTITUDE is important with the teasing game. If you have the
right attitude, you can say almost ANYTHING. If you try this with the
demeanor of an AFC, you will probably get SMOKED !
My night out sargin to make up for the fuckup on HB9 was kinda crappy.
5#close, of which two in retrospect sort of turn me off characterwise
but might pass for a quickie, two sisters (7/7.5) who were walking
around giggling outside the club, and the UG jealosy factor that was
with them. Well. Might call one of them next week or something when
I'm bored.
Anyways, here's something I came up with intuitively. When you're with
a HB, steal any object from her (like a cigarette, frisbee, gum,
anything) and say "smoking isn't healthy" or any stupid reason why she
shouldn't have the object, then hold it in front of her as if you give
it back, and pull it away when she grabs it. Repeat until DDB
It's amazing how long most babes will go along with this if you're
playful and smile. In time she'll probably start grabbing your arm
trying to pull it down. Hold the object up over her for some nice tit
kino when your chest meets hers
I could do this for hours.
- Take something off her - Hat, glasses, etc. (GS)
- Mimic her a couple of times if she says something in a particularly
weird/funny tone (GS)
- Mimic her if she does something/moves in some funny way (GS)
- tickling (PFAL)
- pull her hair (PFAL)
- tap on one shoulder and be on the other. (PiQL)
- Snapping bra-straps (PiQL)
- playing keep-away (PiQL)
- saying their name over and over (PiQL)
- "im not touching you! im not touching you!" (PiQL)
- Accuse her of trying to seduce you (DD/Jonathan Ashton)
- "I have a question...no, never mind; I can't ask that." and NEVER ask it
no matter what she says (Jonathan Ashton/GS)
- Or, read her palm, handwriting, say "OOH!! THAT is interesting!!" When
she asks what, say "I don't think you could handle it. It might be too much
for you." No matter what she says, don't tell her. (Jonathan Ashton)
- Tell her her shoes are untied if she's wearing pumps, her fly is down if
she's wearing a skirt, she has a run in her stockings if she's wearing
pants. Make fun of her if she looks. (Jonathan Ashton)
- If she sits down near you, tell her the chair is taken. Repeat for every
chair she tries to sit in. If she asks, the occupant is in the bathroom.
ALL the chairs are occupied by people in the bathroom. (Jonathan Ashton)
- Throw food, sugar packets, etc. at her when she's not looking. Complain
about how mean she is for not playing catch with you, and how bad it makes
you feel when she refuses to play by not catching what you throw. Make your
lower lip quiver if you can. (Jonathan Ashton)
- Do high fives with her, then complain that she's not doing them with
feeling. (Jonathan Ashton)
- Call her "Megan the meanie" (or whatever her name is) if she won't flirt
or do what you want. Works especially well if you talk and act like a
five-year-old. (Jonathan Ashton)
- On any provocation, playfully: "I'm gonna have to kick your ass!" or
"Don't make me kick your ass!" Then, if it's appropriate, wrestle her down.
(Jonathan Ashton)
- Move in to kiss, then throw your finger in front of her lips and gently
push her back. (Jonathan Ashton)
- tell her "on my planet we have a custon of kissing each others' ankles",
and made her participate (or something similarly silly) (Jonathan Ashton)
- Roughhousing. (see "Wild Fratboy Method"). Like starting a game of tag so
you can tackle her on people's lawns. Get her running around and her heart
racing while getting lots of kino in. (Rush274)
- ask random chicks if they would want to join "my fanclub". chick: "why?" -
"because I'm GREAT! you don´t have to do much, just the normal things,
cheering at me when I walk past, following me through the club, buy me
drinks, dance for me, all the things that the average groupies do (kooper)
- blatantly hitting on ALL girls in a group (kooper)
Can I ask you a kind of personal question?" [wait for a yes] "Good.
Thanks." [turn your back]
"I've got a GREAT knock-knock joke [very low key, here, as you set the
trap] - you start...." make sure you're WHO'S THERE is a bit loud and
mocking.
Q.:"Wanna dance?" A.: "I don't." If there's no music and she mentions it,
say "Hum a little while you do."
If she has an unusual item of clothing or hairstyle, ask her, "Are you
serious?!" She'll be puzzled and ask what about. Press the point. "C'mon are
you SERIOUS?!!!" once you get the yes, hit her with, "Then why are you
wearing that !"
"I know how to handle girls like you: pull their hair, spank their ass and
say, "Go ahead! Tell mom and dad! Get out of my room!""
"Are your hands clean? I need somebody to hold it while I pee."
Compare something, starting with "You know how..." Make it long and
involved. Then say, "Not like that."
"How can I compare it? Hmm. Y'know how they made the monster look in the
new version of Godzilla? NOT LIKE THAT."
"Can I ask you a kind of personal question?" [wait for a yes] "Good.
Thanks." [turn your back]
"I've got a GREAT knock-knock joke [very low key, here, as you set the
trap] - you start...." make sure you're WHO'S THERE is a bit loud and
mocking.
Q.:"Wanna dance?" A.: "I don't." If there's no music and she mentions it,
say "Hum a little while you do."
If she has an unusual item of clothing or hairstyle, ask her, "Are you
serious?!" She'll be puzzled and ask what about. Press the point. "C'mon are
you SERIOUS?!!!" once you get the yes, hit her with, "Then why are you
wearing that !"
"I know how to handle girls like you: pull their hair, spank their ass and
say, "Go ahead! Tell mom and dad! Get out of my room!""
"Are your hands clean? I need somebody to hold it while I pee."
Compare something, starting with "You know how..." Make it long and
involved. Then say, "Not like that."
"How can I compare it? Hmm. Y'know how they made the monster look in the
new version of Godzilla? NOT LIKE THAT."
- talking to a 2-set tell the target the other one has just fallen in love
with you (not really a tease though)
- I always get asked "Where are you from?" as I'm in a foreign country
(Japan). I played the "you have to guess game", the first guess was wrong
(she said xxx country) so I hassled her that she then must loves xxx guys.
Picked a bad trait from xxx and tell her she must love guys that do/have
that.
Stuff like this usually has to be situational. If she's talking to a little
kid say "Isn't he a little young for you?". That's just an example, steal it
if you want. Stuff like this needs to be funny, otherwise you're just a dick.
You need to think of your own examples for this kind of stuff. That way it is
more congruent. You want to leave her wondering whether you were serious or
not. This will peak her interest in you and you can proceed with whatever you
normally do when you're talking to a girl who is interested in you.
Credit - SIlver MASF
this ones by SIlver off MASF and he's rooted around the archives to get this stuff..
It was sort of a bitch to look up all this shit in the Archives so I fugured I would just post a compilation of the stuff. Teasing is a great way to get into a girls pants and here are some awsome ways to do it. Straight out the Dungeons here is good teasing material thanks everyone who posted this stuff before me. Please If you have any of your own good tease openers post them or add them to this.
This is very very long, and not all that congruent
Negs and teasing are different! A neg is delivered completely dead-pan and
seriously. It is meant to show absolutely no interest whatsoever.
A tease is a play-fight flirt (say that five times fast) of varying degree
depending on the situation. It is NOT meant to show non-interest.
- Accuse her of trying to seduce you, coming on to you, etc.
Misconstrue her innocent behavior as shameless flirting (the more
absurdly, the better). Then flirt outrageously, but deny any
interest, and present your behavior as innocent (again, the more
absurdly, the better). Run your finger slowly up and down her
arm; if she accuses you of flirting or being interested, tell her
you're just checking for needle marks.
- "I have a question...no, never mind; I can't ask that." If she
insists, ask something utterly outrageous about her sex life. If
she reacts badly, say "Hey, you dragged it out of me! It's all
YOUR fault!" (Pause for response.) "First you make me say it,
then you complain...one bad behavior after another! That's it,
you're on probation."
- Read her palm or analyze her handwriting. Say "OOH!! THAT is
interesting!!" When she asks what, say "I don't think you could
handle it. It might be too much for you." No matter what she
says, don't tell her.
- Tell her her shoes are untied if she's wearing pumps, her fly is
down if she's wearing a skirt, she has a run in her stockings if
she's wearing pants. Make fun of her if she looks.
- If she sits down near you, tell her the chair is taken. Repeat
for every chair she tries to sit in. If she asks, the occupant
is in the bathroom. ALL the chairs are occupied by people in
the bathroom.
- Throw food, sugar packets, etc. at her when she's not looking.
Complain about how mean she is for not playing catch with you, and
how bad it makes you feel when she refuses to play by not catching
what you throw. Make your lower lip quiver if you can.
- Do high fives with her, then complain that she's not doing them
with feeling.
- Call her "Megan the meanie" (or whatever her name is) if she won't
flirt or do what you want. Works especially well if you talk and
act like a five-year-old.
- On any provocation, playfully: "I'm gonna have to kick your
ass!" or "Don't make me kick your ass!" Then, if it's appropriate,
wrestle her down.
- Move in to kiss, then throw your finger in front of her lips and
gently push her back.
Okay, guys, hopefully I've primed the pump...what are your ideas and
best teasing stories?
Thanks,
Ash
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy. Teasing is how I'm used to getting all the girls I currently get -
acting very cheeky and playfully arrogant. Combined with alpha male
purposeness, it works well with young girls.
All of your examples were very cool. I also go sexual with as much of
the teasing as I can, because the girls do picture all the things you
joke about, and those mental images of you get them going. And that's
when you poke them in jest, and establish kino.
I try to make fun of them alot also. I wish I could think of some
examples. Hmm, just teasing them, and telling them that you bet they'd
like things to happen, that you know they don't. And just obviously
bullshitting answers to questions they ask you - making up ridiculous
stories. And also bragging about yourself sexually alot, like about
your attractiveness and stuff...
Like if HBs ever compliment anything about me, I do this...
HB: "I like your accent"
ME: "thanks, I work out" (smiling cheekily)
and I'll answer that to any compliment at all, and they like it.
ME: Oh, you'd love that wouldn't you?
HB: (laughing) no, of course not.
ME: Yes, you would. You'd be in as fast as you could...etc
HB: No!!
You can answer many questions by saying how sexy you are, and how hot
you are, and playfully act like that's what people think and that's
how things are.
Also if you break into a scottish accent and say, "I'm dead sexy I am"
a bunch of times, it goes over well.
Each time you tease her with a comment, you touch her and poke her and
stuff.
If you say any of these comments and she starts to get angry or
pretends to be, I just put on a deep man-voice and say "You LOVE IT".
And this normally gets them going even more, but while laughing.
If she says anything positive for herself you can turn it around by
saying, "yup, just keep telling yourself that "
Teasing I find is great for stupid girls, because you're still having a
good time despite her stupidity. You're playing with her, rather than
talking to her - which is much more entertaining with dumbshits. I've
had many a fine evening out with a beautiful member of the lower end of
the bell curve, just thanks to the joys of teasing.
Now, I think it works because it establishes to her that you're
confident, that you don't need her, and you're a strong person. It
shows you have a little more power than her. But all this has to be
done with confidence and cheekiness. That I've found is the most
important thing. I make sure my state is confident yet cheeky, with a
bit of a sly grin.
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Before you buy.
>- Accuse her of trying to seduce you, coming on to you, etc.
> Misconstrue her innocent behavior as shameless flirting (the more
> absurdly, the better). Then flirt outrageously, but deny any
> interest, and present your behavior as innocent (again, the more
> absurdly, the better).
This works a treat. This can lead into a sex role reversal "I'm not
that easy you know. Stop trying to smooth talk me just so I'll sleep
with you" etc.
>Run your finger slowly up and down her
> arm; if she accuses you of flirting or being interested, tell her
> you're just checking for needle marks.
>- "I have a question...no, never mind; I can't ask that." If she
> insists, ask something utterly outrageous about her sex life. If
> she reacts badly, say "Hey, you dragged it out of me! It's all
> YOUR fault!" (Pause for response.) "First you make me say it,
> then you complain...one bad behavior after another! That's it,
> you're on probation."
Ask her in a disinterested way what she thinks makes someone good at
oral sex. If she starts talking about what makes a man good, switch it
after a while to her blowjob technique. Arouse her curiousity until
she can't wait to become your student.
>- Tell her her shoes are untied if she's wearing pumps, her fly is
> down if she's wearing a skirt, she has a run in her stockings if
> she's wearing pants.
> Make fun of her if she looks.
Have to try this one.
>- On any provocation, playfully: "I'm gonna have to kick your
> ass!" or "Don't make me kick your ass!" Then, if it's appropriate,
> wrestle her down.
A variation on this is "don't make me pin you down and do you. You
know it's what you want but just control yourself, okay?"
Works especially well after you have already had sex with them.
>Okay, guys, hopefully I've primed the pump...what are your ideas and
>best teasing stories?
Excellent post. Lots of great ideas.
Using the NLP "pink elephant" theory. Accuse her of being obsessed
with sex (for no apparent reason or when she makes the slightest
innuendo). And tell her stuff like
"Stop thinking about sex. Don't think about me kissing up your thigh,
spreading your legs" etc. etc.
Putting on a sleazy voice and saying "outrageous" things like "you
know you want it bay-beeee" can work very well.
I am familiar with the whole Neg Theory here. And it's really nothing new
as I have pointed out before. In fact some cultures are Masters at this. It
also dates back to a time when peasants and slaves couldn't really say what
was on their mind, so they would disguise their intentions in some
long-winded, flowery sounding bullshit that sounded like a compliment, but
was designed to bring the target down a notch. Some Arab cultures are very
good at this to this day.
Before I found ASF, I always had very good results from more direct
Teasing and Insults. Of course it's mostly done in a good-natured sort of
way. AND you can completely alienate some chicks with this tactic.
I seem to have a sixth sense when it comes to WHO this will work on. My
intuition just seems to tell me when this tactic will work. My mind must be
keying-in on little telltale signs that I'm not completely aware of? This
is one reason that I am posting this. I am looking for feedback from the
group. I have not been able to come-up with a reliable road map for others
as to what type of chick this works on. It ABSOLUTELY seems to work on many
of the HOTTEST HBs.
I remember years ago, a friend and I went to a Strip Club in Texas. I
didn't have time to tell him ALL my theories on doing strippers, so I told
him just to "RAG" on ALL of them, and the tactic should stick on at least
ONE of them.
My friend ended up being MUCH harder with his insults and teasing than I
usually am. And most of the girls in the bar were asking me why my friend
is such an ASSHOLE. BUT, it wasn't long before the FINEST HB10 stripper in
the bar was litterally THROWING herself at him. I don't remember everything
he said to her, but I do remember him calling her "Chicken Legs" quite
often.
I think she asked him to dance, and he said that she had chicken legs and
would probably just lay an egg in his lap or something.
To make a long story short, she did everything she could to try to win his
approval, and at the end of the night, she litterally jumped into the truck
with us and asked where we were going. She was so desperate to win him over
that she fucked BOTH of us, at his suggestion.
I have hundred of such stories that illustrate how powerfull this method
is. More recently, I used it on a Hooters Waitress....
I thought that she was the MOST attractive HB in the place...
HB: Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot your water, I'll get it.
Me: That's good because you really don't want to get on my bad side?
HB: What? Why is that?
Me: Well, I'm part Indian!
HB: (with a confused look) What does that have to do with anything?
Me: I'm a member of the "Slap-a-ho" Tribe. (Got this from a black comic.
Can't remember his name)
HB: (laughing) I'm NOT a HO ! ( you have to remember that this Hooters
was FULL of AFCs drooling over these fine bitches and acting all "proper".)
Me: Yeah, I bet you've seen more ceilings than Michealangelo!
HB: (Laughing) Leaves and goes over to the cash register to tell some of
the other girls what I said and they start laughing. Some of the other HBs
start coming over to our table to Kick-It with us.
HB: returns and says "Here's your water, you're not going to slap me are
you?"
Me: Slapping is only ONE option. Remember, the "Slap-a-ho" tribe is a
member of the "SPANK-A-HO" NATION. Then I made some sort of comment
comparing her to a Mac Computer because "You are USER FRIENDLY". Which I
guess is a sort of embedded command.
To make a long story short, I continued to DOG her at the amusement of all
the other Hooters girls. The TARGET began throwing herself at me and
invited me to a "Get Together" after work. I continued to DOG her even
after fucking her.
I remember laying in bed with her after fucking her and watching the Cindy
Margolis show. I made a comment that Cindy is a Hot Bitch and I started
jacking-off under the covers while watching Cindy on TV. I did this just to
fuck with HBHooters mind and she came unglued. She jumped on my cock with
her face and ended up giving me a fuck that was ten times better than the
one before. She even took it up the ass which was virgin territory.
Anyway, I was interested in hearing other people's experiences in making an
HB the butt of your jokes and insults.
I know that it is ASF dogma NOT to insinuate that a chick is a slut. BUT,
for some of the hotter ones, the phsychological button that is pushed by
the jokes and teasing seems to be much stronger than the "Slut Factor". Oh,
by the way, HBHooters was only 23. Young enough to be my daughter! Put
that in your pipe and "Smoke-It" Mystery!
Also, have you older guys noticed that HBs tend to think that YOU are MUCH
better in bed than their YOUNGER "boyfriends" ? Maybe it's experience?
Michael S.
PS Also, ATTITUDE is important with the teasing game. If you have the
right attitude, you can say almost ANYTHING. If you try this with the
demeanor of an AFC, you will probably get SMOKED !
My night out sargin to make up for the fuckup on HB9 was kinda crappy.
5#close, of which two in retrospect sort of turn me off characterwise
but might pass for a quickie, two sisters (7/7.5) who were walking
around giggling outside the club, and the UG jealosy factor that was
with them. Well. Might call one of them next week or something when
I'm bored.
Anyways, here's something I came up with intuitively. When you're with
a HB, steal any object from her (like a cigarette, frisbee, gum,
anything) and say "smoking isn't healthy" or any stupid reason why she
shouldn't have the object, then hold it in front of her as if you give
it back, and pull it away when she grabs it. Repeat until DDB
It's amazing how long most babes will go along with this if you're
playful and smile. In time she'll probably start grabbing your arm
trying to pull it down. Hold the object up over her for some nice tit
kino when your chest meets hers
I could do this for hours.
- Take something off her - Hat, glasses, etc. (GS)
- Mimic her a couple of times if she says something in a particularly
weird/funny tone (GS)
- Mimic her if she does something/moves in some funny way (GS)
- tickling (PFAL)
- pull her hair (PFAL)
- tap on one shoulder and be on the other. (PiQL)
- Snapping bra-straps (PiQL)
- playing keep-away (PiQL)
- saying their name over and over (PiQL)
- "im not touching you! im not touching you!" (PiQL)
- Accuse her of trying to seduce you (DD/Jonathan Ashton)
- "I have a question...no, never mind; I can't ask that." and NEVER ask it
no matter what she says (Jonathan Ashton/GS)
- Or, read her palm, handwriting, say "OOH!! THAT is interesting!!" When
she asks what, say "I don't think you could handle it. It might be too much
for you." No matter what she says, don't tell her. (Jonathan Ashton)
- Tell her her shoes are untied if she's wearing pumps, her fly is down if
she's wearing a skirt, she has a run in her stockings if she's wearing
pants. Make fun of her if she looks. (Jonathan Ashton)
- If she sits down near you, tell her the chair is taken. Repeat for every
chair she tries to sit in. If she asks, the occupant is in the bathroom.
ALL the chairs are occupied by people in the bathroom. (Jonathan Ashton)
- Throw food, sugar packets, etc. at her when she's not looking. Complain
about how mean she is for not playing catch with you, and how bad it makes
you feel when she refuses to play by not catching what you throw. Make your
lower lip quiver if you can. (Jonathan Ashton)
- Do high fives with her, then complain that she's not doing them with
feeling. (Jonathan Ashton)
- Call her "Megan the meanie" (or whatever her name is) if she won't flirt
or do what you want. Works especially well if you talk and act like a
five-year-old. (Jonathan Ashton)
- On any provocation, playfully: "I'm gonna have to kick your ass!" or
"Don't make me kick your ass!" Then, if it's appropriate, wrestle her down.
(Jonathan Ashton)
- Move in to kiss, then throw your finger in front of her lips and gently
push her back. (Jonathan Ashton)
- tell her "on my planet we have a custon of kissing each others' ankles",
and made her participate (or something similarly silly) (Jonathan Ashton)
- Roughhousing. (see "Wild Fratboy Method"). Like starting a game of tag so
you can tackle her on people's lawns. Get her running around and her heart
racing while getting lots of kino in. (Rush274)
- ask random chicks if they would want to join "my fanclub". chick: "why?" -
"because I'm GREAT! you don´t have to do much, just the normal things,
cheering at me when I walk past, following me through the club, buy me
drinks, dance for me, all the things that the average groupies do (kooper)
- blatantly hitting on ALL girls in a group (kooper)
Can I ask you a kind of personal question?" [wait for a yes] "Good.
Thanks." [turn your back]
"I've got a GREAT knock-knock joke [very low key, here, as you set the
trap] - you start...." make sure you're WHO'S THERE is a bit loud and
mocking.
Q.:"Wanna dance?" A.: "I don't." If there's no music and she mentions it,
say "Hum a little while you do."
If she has an unusual item of clothing or hairstyle, ask her, "Are you
serious?!" She'll be puzzled and ask what about. Press the point. "C'mon are
you SERIOUS?!!!" once you get the yes, hit her with, "Then why are you
wearing that !"
"I know how to handle girls like you: pull their hair, spank their ass and
say, "Go ahead! Tell mom and dad! Get out of my room!""
"Are your hands clean? I need somebody to hold it while I pee."
Compare something, starting with "You know how..." Make it long and
involved. Then say, "Not like that."
"How can I compare it? Hmm. Y'know how they made the monster look in the
new version of Godzilla? NOT LIKE THAT."
"Can I ask you a kind of personal question?" [wait for a yes] "Good.
Thanks." [turn your back]
"I've got a GREAT knock-knock joke [very low key, here, as you set the
trap] - you start...." make sure you're WHO'S THERE is a bit loud and
mocking.
Q.:"Wanna dance?" A.: "I don't." If there's no music and she mentions it,
say "Hum a little while you do."
If she has an unusual item of clothing or hairstyle, ask her, "Are you
serious?!" She'll be puzzled and ask what about. Press the point. "C'mon are
you SERIOUS?!!!" once you get the yes, hit her with, "Then why are you
wearing that !"
"I know how to handle girls like you: pull their hair, spank their ass and
say, "Go ahead! Tell mom and dad! Get out of my room!""
"Are your hands clean? I need somebody to hold it while I pee."
Compare something, starting with "You know how..." Make it long and
involved. Then say, "Not like that."
"How can I compare it? Hmm. Y'know how they made the monster look in the
new version of Godzilla? NOT LIKE THAT."
- talking to a 2-set tell the target the other one has just fallen in love
with you (not really a tease though)
- I always get asked "Where are you from?" as I'm in a foreign country
(Japan). I played the "you have to guess game", the first guess was wrong
(she said xxx country) so I hassled her that she then must loves xxx guys.
Picked a bad trait from xxx and tell her she must love guys that do/have
that.
Stuff like this usually has to be situational. If she's talking to a little
kid say "Isn't he a little young for you?". That's just an example, steal it
if you want. Stuff like this needs to be funny, otherwise you're just a dick.
You need to think of your own examples for this kind of stuff. That way it is
more congruent. You want to leave her wondering whether you were serious or
not. This will peak her interest in you and you can proceed with whatever you
normally do when you're talking to a girl who is interested in you.
Credit - SIlver MASF
Sunday, 13 January 2008
The apocalypse opener
Balls out direct game opener from Ciaran, RSD staff
Chat up lines don't work. That's the main problem with them.
I mean, we all know this. If there was a simple line you could just spiel out and get a girl, the community wouldn't be as big as it is.
The fact is, getting a girl isn't really about what you say. It's about what you DEMONSTRATE and what you PROJECT.
HOWEVER...
What if there WAS a chat up line that did work? What if there was a chat up line that led to an instant makeout? What then?
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER
What I am about to share with you is some potent fucking shit.
Do you understand?
Good.
When I showed this to Jeffy, he took one look at it, then nodded, and said "That's some potent fucking shit."
My point is this.
If you cannot handle doing Shock and Awe, you are not ready for this shit yet.
This is NOT a magic pill.
If you are a broken fucking value taking Gollum-like chode who wants to 'get one over' on women and life, who wants to seek petty vengeance for the myriad grudges that you nurse on a daily basis to justify the uselessness of your pathetic existence... this will not work.
How do I know this?
Because I've been that chode.
Get your inner game sorted.
I recommend the work of Eckhart Tolle.
So with no further ado, gents, here we go. I hope you're sitting comfortably.
THE BEST CHAT UP LINE I EVER HEARD
About 18 months ago I was in the smoking area of a pub on Edinburgh's Royal Mile. It's very picturesque. There's a castle and everything. Anyway, this time I'm out with just ONE girl. She's a good friend of mine, and for matters of convenience and privacy, we shall call her Susan.
So me and Susan are chatting away, and the subject wanders on to chat-up lines. I asked her what the worst chat-up line she ever heard was and she gave me some chodely horror-story of unimaginable lameness.
Then I asked her
"So... what's the best chat up line you've ever heard?"
Susan considered this for a while, and then said this:
"Ok, this one guy had a great one a while back. It worked on me."
"What do you mean, it worked on you?"
"It worked. I banged him."
"Nice. You're very ladylike."
Susan smiled politely.
"So what was it?" I asked.
THE APOCALYPSE OPENER...
"Well," she said, "it goes like this...
What she then told me made me literally choke on my beer. It was genius. I will never know who this man is, but whoever he is he deserves a prize. A big, shiny Nobel prize.
Here it is, lads:
You rock up to a chick and, in a confident, level voice you say
"Hey, how's it going."
She will say
"Fine."
You then say
"Cool. What are you doing later?"
She will say
"I'm not sure."
You then say
"Do you want to come home with me?"
Then you hold.
Hold.
HOLD....................
HOLD IT MY SON..........................
HOLD THE FUCKING LINE..................
Boom. Makeout.
And that's the Apocalypse opener. You don't 'build rapport.' You don't 'elicit values.' You don't 'kino escalate.' You don't even ask her fucking NAME. You ask if she wants to sleep with you in the THIRD SENTENCE, hold the line, and reap the whirlwind.
CIARAN, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME
Nope. It is and remains the most amazingly powerful chat up line I've ever seen in my life. I realise that you're all just shaking your heads with a million problems that you can see with doing this, so let's go through this step-by-step.
DOES IT WORK?
Well, let me tell you a story.
After hearing this, I resolved to give it a go. I went out to a bar that night, and walked about the place.
Now, at this point I wasn't by any means a Jedi, but I wasn't shit. I could consistently open, I could flirt, I could get the occasional makeout. What I'm saying is that I'd gotten to a point where I could approach without that much anxiety.
Dude, I was shitting my pants. Mother of God, man. Looking at all these beautiful women, just the thought of going up to one of them and coming OUT with this shit was terrifying. I sank pint after pint of booze. I walked around some more. I drank more booze. I lurked in the corner for a while. I was still shitting my pants without a SINGLE approach when the bouncers started herding people out the door.
Fuck. I'd missed my chance.
No. No, no, no. No way. Not me. Not now. I was going to do this. If I crashed out, if I messed up, whatever - I'd take the pain. I was going to say this. Honestly, it felt like my VERY FIRST APPROACH all over again. I was really, really scared.
I walked out of the bar into the milling crowd. Fuck it. I'm going to do this. Someone. Anyone.
And there she was. Delicate, like a fairy almost. Red hair, really rich and deep red, and a quirky dress that melted my heart.
Fuck.
Fuckitty fuck fuck. We're going in.
Ok, Ciaran. Concentrate on getting the first line out. That's not so bad.
"Hey" I blurt.
"Hey." She's even prettier close up. DO IT, CIARAN. DO IT!!
"How's it going?"
"Not bad."
"What are you up to later?"
"Not sure."
DO IT MAN!! EYE OF THE TIGER!!
"Do you want to come home with me?
She looks at me. She's gauging. I've never felt attention this intense. It's like a laserbeam scorching me for any signs of incongruence. Luckily enough, she's hot, so there aren't any. The urge to say something, to break the tension is PALPABLE. I CLAMP my jaw tight shut to silence myself.
She sways backward, stunned. Then she jumps me. Physically lunges forward and puts her tongue in my mouth.
BAM.
Incidentally, there was a guy there - a very strong natural - who had been hitting on her all evening, and had got her to agree to come back to his (I found this all out later). Didn't matter. Blew him the fuck away with this ONE SENTENCE.
This girl wasn't a slut. She wasn't a freak. She was a cool, normal chick.
She was hot too. Really hot.
Nice.
TREMBLE BEFORE THE COMING APOCALYPSE
So why does this work? Is it magic?
Well actually, there's no magic here. It's all really simple, and rests on EXACTLY the reason I gave at the start of the article for why chat-up lines don't work.
It's not about what you say.
It's about what you DEMONSTRATE and what you PROJECT.
Let's go back to that sunny afternoon on Edinburgh. I'm in the smoking area, talking to Susan.
So anyway, I finish choking on my beer.
"What? He said what?"
"Do you want to come home with me."
And what did you do?
"Well, I didn't jump him straight away, but I was just really impressed that he had the balls to come out with something like that."
"Yeah. Wow, that certainly is an impressive introduction."
"Damn straight. After that all he needed to do was just maybe buy me a drink or something and I was his."
"Cool."
"Yup."
So let's look at this, straight from the horses' mouth. So to speak.
She was REALLY IMPRESSED that he had the BALLS to COME OUT with something like that.
REALLY IMPRESSED
The power of this opener is massive. It lies in the fact that it is HONEST. It is genuine to the turbo-max.
All of my 'game' is based around this principal. Be genuine, but be genuine times 1000. Don't just 'be yourself', fucking BE yourself. Be yourself to the motherfucking HILT.
Do you understand?
She will NEVER HAVE HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
If you do this, a girl will be really impressed that you DEMONSTRATE the courage to say this. And believe me, you cannot fake it. This shit takes balls.
BALLS
I'm not going to lie to you. It is SCARY doing the Apocalypse Opener.
But that's good. That's WHY it works.
Because it is genuinely scary, it is INCREDIBLY impressive. But you need the balls to come out with it.
COME OUT WITH IT
At the same time, your delivery itself - and here's the crazy thing - is actually NOT THAT IMPORTANT.
I know. Nuts.
The truth is, the first time I said this I was SCARED. Really, really scared.
It still worked.
It's so powerful. You don't need to be amazing, and you don't need the inner game of the Fonz to attempt this. I didn't have much inner game at all when I started reeling it out.
All you need to do is NOT CRUMBLE.
That is all. Just come out with it, then don't crumble.
THE KEY TO MAKING IT WORK
The key to making it work is not how you say it, but what you do in the 30 seconds after it's left your mouth.
Before I talk specifics, let's state the single CARDINAL SIN of the Apocalypse, which is the ONLY THING that can blow you out.
NEVER BE WEIRD
That's it. Don't be weird. You have to deliver the opener deadpan. Like you are talking about the WEATHER. You are not making a BIG THING of it. You're just ASKING.
You are not MOCKING. You are not JOKING. You are not TOO SERIOUS.
It is NOT PLAYFUL however - it is REAL.
You are REALLY ASKING HER.
If she says no - you only need ONE COMEBACK.
It is this:
"Ok."
Then you strike up a 'normal' conversation about the colour of the wallpaper, or the music that's playing, or the fact that you did your laundry earlier today.
Whatever.
HOW DO I KNOW IF IT'S WORKED?
You will know because you will see two things in that girl's eyes.
Shock, motherfucker. SHOCK and AWE.
If she looks shocked, you've got her. If she looks stunned, she's yours. If she takes it in her stride, she's the coolest cucumber in the world, and you should probably marry her. extremely fast.
WAIT, CIARAN! WHAT IF IT BACKFIRES?
It never backfires as long as you don't panic.
That's right - there is only ONE THING you must NOT DO while using the Apocalypse Opener...
And that is to lose your shit like a fucking pussy.
I know. Crazy. As long as you aren't weird, or creepy, it never backfires.
But REMEMBER.
You are not trying to PERSUADE HER TO SLEEP WITH YOU.
This is so UTTERLY CRUCIAL I am going to write it in red letters.
You are not trying to PERSUADE HER TO SLEEP WITH YOU.
You are just putting the OPTION in front of her. If she says no, you say 'ok' and talk about your nephew's new pet dog. Or whatever.
If you do this in a creepy or sleazy way, you will be shot down like a blind, 96-year old German who doesn't know the war's ended, doing a strafing run on a US Destroyer-Class Battleship in a Messerschmitt Me 262.
That is to say, extremely quickly.
So DO NOT ATTEMPT to ENTICE her into sleeping with you.
This is important NOT JUST in the vibe of the line itself (where, again, it is absolutely crucial). It is important in what comes after.
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. WHAT IF SHE DOESN'T JUMP ME?
She'll only jump you, in my experience, about 30-50% of the time.
Equally, this is a MASSIVE percentage for ONE LINE.
However, the other 50-70% of the time, she will not jump you. Not for at least 6 or 7 minutes.
This is FINE. Just chill out. She will be testing you for signs of neediness but remember - all you need to do is talk about the WEATHER.
You do not need to do anything else to ATTRACT her. That phase is OVER. She will be stunned by what you said. Now all you need to do, and I cannot OVERSTRESS this, is ACT NORMAL.
This is, incidentally, the only place where it is ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE for you to buy her a drink, for three reasons:
1: It shows you are normal
2: It acts a kind of 'token wooing' to sate her girly ego
3: It shows you are normal
Ok?
Just ACT NORMAL for the love of God. Talk about anything. She will be SUPER-INTO-YOU. She just wants to know you're not a serial killer before she takes you home.
I THINK THAT IT ONLY SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA FOR DRUNK CHICKS AT CLOSING TIME
Then you're a pussy.
I've opened girls on the street with it. Successfully. They don't normally jump you, but they do find it fun, cool and engagingly forward. And sometimes they jump you.
It works brilliantly in a bar or club, but you don't need to save it to the end of the evening unless you're looking for a good night out. After a while (I'm not kidding, this really happens) it gets kind of frustrating when you want a night out with your friends and you keep getting dragged off by chicks.
No, really.
Anyway, you can do this anywhere. You can open with it at the start of the night. You can open with it at the end of the night.
Incidentally, I have never had a bad reaction from a woman when doing this. Ever. Even if you accidentally slip into sleaze, she'll just walk off, but this rarely happens.
This one hooks like a motherfucker.
The other thing is this- if she walks off in shock, do not follow her. Let her go. She'll be back in about 15 seconds. Maximum 60.
DO YOU STARE AT HER AFTER YOU ASK?
You never stare. You look. Empty your mind, young grasshopper. Read the Power Of Now. You lock eyes with her. That is all - but then again I would argue that you lock eyes with her all the time. In fact, I would argue that you lock eyes with everyone you interact with in your entire life.
Just look at her. Calm. Level. Like your question is completely normal and in context. She will break.
IF SHE SAYS 'NO' AND I JUST STICK IN THERE, WILL SHE COME AROUND?
Yes.
In fact, it is awesome when she says no... because it gives you an opportunity to demonstrate a reality stronger than cobalt steel.
Here's what you do.
If she says no, you say "ok" in the same tone of voice as if you had offered her a prawn cocktail crisp and she had said "no thank you." Then you ask her what she thought of Pirates of the Caribbean 3 or something.
Or you talk about the burger you had for breakfast or what the weather was like last tuesday or what-fucking-ever.
In 10 minutes (tops) she'll be on your face.
SHOULD I DO THIS IN FRONT OF HER FRIENDS?
No.
You CANNOT do this if a girl is within earshot of her friends. If it's a club, you can do it with only a few feet of distance between her and her mates because of the loud noise.
The important thing is that she feels that it is a private exchange for EXACTLY the reason you think. If you do this in front of her mate she will look at you like you're scum and blow you out.
Amazingly, this never, ever happens, ever, if she is on her own.
Chicks.
Gotta love em.
WHAT IF I STARED AT HER BOOBS? WOULD THAT WORK?
No. Remember - this is COOL. You deliver this in the same tone as if you're asking about the weather. Not a throwaway line, mind...
Just a genuine, totally normal, direct question.
Boom, mofos.
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOOD FOR ONE NIGHT STANDS... BUT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE OF THESE CHICKS, COULD YOU?
Of course you can. Stop asking stupid questions.
You can start a relationship off a purely sexual one night stand no problem.
As Tim once said - there's a time and a place for emotional connection.
After sex.
CAN I WAIT FOR A FEW MINUTES INTO THE CONVERSATION TO USE THE LINE?
NO.
It loses power and effectiveness rapidly the longer you wait to say it.
The power and impact of this derives from the fact that you are balls out opening with the option of sex.
You can say it later, of course - and she might not freak out. You may get a makeout, and it will increase attraction as long as you can hold your shit and cope with fallout - but if you do it later she also might just bolt.
If you're looking for an instant hook up, do this fast.
I THINK LOOKS WILL MATTER HERE. (JUST MY 2 CENTS)
Your two cents are worthless.
Dude, I'm not here to debate abstract concepts of female attraction and how they relate to looks.
I'm telling you that this works regardless of what you look like, because that is what I have seen, over and over again, with my own eyes.
Quasimodo could pull this off if he had big enough balls.
I don't care if you believe me. This works. I know because I've done it, I've seen others do it.
At no point have looks ever been even an incidental factor in the success of this line.
I have consistently pulled model hot chicks with this while looking like a tramp.
Anyone who thinks looks matter... even in the slightest... when it comes to being good with girls, is a fucking pussy ass chode. If you think differently, you are a chode, and your opinion is irrelevant.
Now sit in the corner, and think about what you've done.
FAIR ENOUGH, LOOKS DON'T MATTER. BUT I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE BELIEF THAT ANY SOBER GIRL WOULD FUCK A GUY ON THE SAME NIGHT SHE MEETS HIM.
Hahahahaha! Oh! AHAHAHA! OOOOOOH!
*pants*
OOOOOOOOHOHOHOHO!
AHAHAHAHA!
Ahahahaha.
Haha.
Hee.
Hoo.
Hnnnnnnnnng.
They will dude. Your beliefs are irrelevant. They will.
Oh yes.
They will.
GROUP APOCALYPSE
Rock up to two chicks and say exactly the same thing, with this interesting twist:
"Hey, how's it going."
They will say
"Fine."
You then say
"Cool. What are you doing later?"
They will say
"I'm not sure."
You then say
"What are the chances of you two coming back to mine for a threesome?"
Then you hold.
Hold.
HOLD....................
HOLD IT MY SON..........................
HOLD THE FUCKING LINE..................
Boom.
That 'Boom' incidentally, is the heart of the S+A system.
It's where you see it in a girl's eyes. Shock, and awe.
It is the most rewarding thing you'll ever see after years in the wasteland being ignored by women. Most men go their whole lives and never see it. It's amazing. After you've seen it a few times it changes you, changes your whole outlook on life. It's like something connects, deep inside you. Some long-lost circuit. After I'd done this a couple of times my whole voice changed, became more resonant. It was awesome.
So that, my friends, is the Apocalypse Opener. The only chat-up line I ever found that actually works. I've spoken about it at length, because I want to hammer home one point.
It works. It's not THAT hard to do. You DO NOT NEED to be amazing at this to pull this off. If you can blurt it out and hold your nerve, you can do this.
Now get out there, and nail this shit to the ground.
'Jealous girlfriend' my hairy white ass.
Peace out
(Credit - Ciaran RSD)
Chat up lines don't work. That's the main problem with them.
I mean, we all know this. If there was a simple line you could just spiel out and get a girl, the community wouldn't be as big as it is.
The fact is, getting a girl isn't really about what you say. It's about what you DEMONSTRATE and what you PROJECT.
HOWEVER...
What if there WAS a chat up line that did work? What if there was a chat up line that led to an instant makeout? What then?
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER
What I am about to share with you is some potent fucking shit.
Do you understand?
Good.
When I showed this to Jeffy, he took one look at it, then nodded, and said "That's some potent fucking shit."
My point is this.
If you cannot handle doing Shock and Awe, you are not ready for this shit yet.
This is NOT a magic pill.
If you are a broken fucking value taking Gollum-like chode who wants to 'get one over' on women and life, who wants to seek petty vengeance for the myriad grudges that you nurse on a daily basis to justify the uselessness of your pathetic existence... this will not work.
How do I know this?
Because I've been that chode.
Get your inner game sorted.
I recommend the work of Eckhart Tolle.
So with no further ado, gents, here we go. I hope you're sitting comfortably.
THE BEST CHAT UP LINE I EVER HEARD
About 18 months ago I was in the smoking area of a pub on Edinburgh's Royal Mile. It's very picturesque. There's a castle and everything. Anyway, this time I'm out with just ONE girl. She's a good friend of mine, and for matters of convenience and privacy, we shall call her Susan.
So me and Susan are chatting away, and the subject wanders on to chat-up lines. I asked her what the worst chat-up line she ever heard was and she gave me some chodely horror-story of unimaginable lameness.
Then I asked her
"So... what's the best chat up line you've ever heard?"
Susan considered this for a while, and then said this:
"Ok, this one guy had a great one a while back. It worked on me."
"What do you mean, it worked on you?"
"It worked. I banged him."
"Nice. You're very ladylike."
Susan smiled politely.
"So what was it?" I asked.
THE APOCALYPSE OPENER...
"Well," she said, "it goes like this...
What she then told me made me literally choke on my beer. It was genius. I will never know who this man is, but whoever he is he deserves a prize. A big, shiny Nobel prize.
Here it is, lads:
You rock up to a chick and, in a confident, level voice you say
"Hey, how's it going."
She will say
"Fine."
You then say
"Cool. What are you doing later?"
She will say
"I'm not sure."
You then say
"Do you want to come home with me?"
Then you hold.
Hold.
HOLD....................
HOLD IT MY SON..........................
HOLD THE FUCKING LINE..................
Boom. Makeout.
And that's the Apocalypse opener. You don't 'build rapport.' You don't 'elicit values.' You don't 'kino escalate.' You don't even ask her fucking NAME. You ask if she wants to sleep with you in the THIRD SENTENCE, hold the line, and reap the whirlwind.
CIARAN, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME
Nope. It is and remains the most amazingly powerful chat up line I've ever seen in my life. I realise that you're all just shaking your heads with a million problems that you can see with doing this, so let's go through this step-by-step.
DOES IT WORK?
Well, let me tell you a story.
After hearing this, I resolved to give it a go. I went out to a bar that night, and walked about the place.
Now, at this point I wasn't by any means a Jedi, but I wasn't shit. I could consistently open, I could flirt, I could get the occasional makeout. What I'm saying is that I'd gotten to a point where I could approach without that much anxiety.
Dude, I was shitting my pants. Mother of God, man. Looking at all these beautiful women, just the thought of going up to one of them and coming OUT with this shit was terrifying. I sank pint after pint of booze. I walked around some more. I drank more booze. I lurked in the corner for a while. I was still shitting my pants without a SINGLE approach when the bouncers started herding people out the door.
Fuck. I'd missed my chance.
No. No, no, no. No way. Not me. Not now. I was going to do this. If I crashed out, if I messed up, whatever - I'd take the pain. I was going to say this. Honestly, it felt like my VERY FIRST APPROACH all over again. I was really, really scared.
I walked out of the bar into the milling crowd. Fuck it. I'm going to do this. Someone. Anyone.
And there she was. Delicate, like a fairy almost. Red hair, really rich and deep red, and a quirky dress that melted my heart.
Fuck.
Fuckitty fuck fuck. We're going in.
Ok, Ciaran. Concentrate on getting the first line out. That's not so bad.
"Hey" I blurt.
"Hey." She's even prettier close up. DO IT, CIARAN. DO IT!!
"How's it going?"
"Not bad."
"What are you up to later?"
"Not sure."
DO IT MAN!! EYE OF THE TIGER!!
"Do you want to come home with me?
She looks at me. She's gauging. I've never felt attention this intense. It's like a laserbeam scorching me for any signs of incongruence. Luckily enough, she's hot, so there aren't any. The urge to say something, to break the tension is PALPABLE. I CLAMP my jaw tight shut to silence myself.
She sways backward, stunned. Then she jumps me. Physically lunges forward and puts her tongue in my mouth.
BAM.
Incidentally, there was a guy there - a very strong natural - who had been hitting on her all evening, and had got her to agree to come back to his (I found this all out later). Didn't matter. Blew him the fuck away with this ONE SENTENCE.
This girl wasn't a slut. She wasn't a freak. She was a cool, normal chick.
She was hot too. Really hot.
Nice.
TREMBLE BEFORE THE COMING APOCALYPSE
So why does this work? Is it magic?
Well actually, there's no magic here. It's all really simple, and rests on EXACTLY the reason I gave at the start of the article for why chat-up lines don't work.
It's not about what you say.
It's about what you DEMONSTRATE and what you PROJECT.
Let's go back to that sunny afternoon on Edinburgh. I'm in the smoking area, talking to Susan.
So anyway, I finish choking on my beer.
"What? He said what?"
"Do you want to come home with me."
And what did you do?
"Well, I didn't jump him straight away, but I was just really impressed that he had the balls to come out with something like that."
"Yeah. Wow, that certainly is an impressive introduction."
"Damn straight. After that all he needed to do was just maybe buy me a drink or something and I was his."
"Cool."
"Yup."
So let's look at this, straight from the horses' mouth. So to speak.
She was REALLY IMPRESSED that he had the BALLS to COME OUT with something like that.
REALLY IMPRESSED
The power of this opener is massive. It lies in the fact that it is HONEST. It is genuine to the turbo-max.
All of my 'game' is based around this principal. Be genuine, but be genuine times 1000. Don't just 'be yourself', fucking BE yourself. Be yourself to the motherfucking HILT.
Do you understand?
She will NEVER HAVE HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
If you do this, a girl will be really impressed that you DEMONSTRATE the courage to say this. And believe me, you cannot fake it. This shit takes balls.
BALLS
I'm not going to lie to you. It is SCARY doing the Apocalypse Opener.
But that's good. That's WHY it works.
Because it is genuinely scary, it is INCREDIBLY impressive. But you need the balls to come out with it.
COME OUT WITH IT
At the same time, your delivery itself - and here's the crazy thing - is actually NOT THAT IMPORTANT.
I know. Nuts.
The truth is, the first time I said this I was SCARED. Really, really scared.
It still worked.
It's so powerful. You don't need to be amazing, and you don't need the inner game of the Fonz to attempt this. I didn't have much inner game at all when I started reeling it out.
All you need to do is NOT CRUMBLE.
That is all. Just come out with it, then don't crumble.
THE KEY TO MAKING IT WORK
The key to making it work is not how you say it, but what you do in the 30 seconds after it's left your mouth.
Before I talk specifics, let's state the single CARDINAL SIN of the Apocalypse, which is the ONLY THING that can blow you out.
NEVER BE WEIRD
That's it. Don't be weird. You have to deliver the opener deadpan. Like you are talking about the WEATHER. You are not making a BIG THING of it. You're just ASKING.
You are not MOCKING. You are not JOKING. You are not TOO SERIOUS.
It is NOT PLAYFUL however - it is REAL.
You are REALLY ASKING HER.
If she says no - you only need ONE COMEBACK.
It is this:
"Ok."
Then you strike up a 'normal' conversation about the colour of the wallpaper, or the music that's playing, or the fact that you did your laundry earlier today.
Whatever.
HOW DO I KNOW IF IT'S WORKED?
You will know because you will see two things in that girl's eyes.
Shock, motherfucker. SHOCK and AWE.
If she looks shocked, you've got her. If she looks stunned, she's yours. If she takes it in her stride, she's the coolest cucumber in the world, and you should probably marry her. extremely fast.
WAIT, CIARAN! WHAT IF IT BACKFIRES?
It never backfires as long as you don't panic.
That's right - there is only ONE THING you must NOT DO while using the Apocalypse Opener...
And that is to lose your shit like a fucking pussy.
I know. Crazy. As long as you aren't weird, or creepy, it never backfires.
But REMEMBER.
You are not trying to PERSUADE HER TO SLEEP WITH YOU.
This is so UTTERLY CRUCIAL I am going to write it in red letters.
You are not trying to PERSUADE HER TO SLEEP WITH YOU.
You are just putting the OPTION in front of her. If she says no, you say 'ok' and talk about your nephew's new pet dog. Or whatever.
If you do this in a creepy or sleazy way, you will be shot down like a blind, 96-year old German who doesn't know the war's ended, doing a strafing run on a US Destroyer-Class Battleship in a Messerschmitt Me 262.
That is to say, extremely quickly.
So DO NOT ATTEMPT to ENTICE her into sleeping with you.
This is important NOT JUST in the vibe of the line itself (where, again, it is absolutely crucial). It is important in what comes after.
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. WHAT IF SHE DOESN'T JUMP ME?
She'll only jump you, in my experience, about 30-50% of the time.
Equally, this is a MASSIVE percentage for ONE LINE.
However, the other 50-70% of the time, she will not jump you. Not for at least 6 or 7 minutes.
This is FINE. Just chill out. She will be testing you for signs of neediness but remember - all you need to do is talk about the WEATHER.
You do not need to do anything else to ATTRACT her. That phase is OVER. She will be stunned by what you said. Now all you need to do, and I cannot OVERSTRESS this, is ACT NORMAL.
This is, incidentally, the only place where it is ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE for you to buy her a drink, for three reasons:
1: It shows you are normal
2: It acts a kind of 'token wooing' to sate her girly ego
3: It shows you are normal
Ok?
Just ACT NORMAL for the love of God. Talk about anything. She will be SUPER-INTO-YOU. She just wants to know you're not a serial killer before she takes you home.
I THINK THAT IT ONLY SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA FOR DRUNK CHICKS AT CLOSING TIME
Then you're a pussy.
I've opened girls on the street with it. Successfully. They don't normally jump you, but they do find it fun, cool and engagingly forward. And sometimes they jump you.
It works brilliantly in a bar or club, but you don't need to save it to the end of the evening unless you're looking for a good night out. After a while (I'm not kidding, this really happens) it gets kind of frustrating when you want a night out with your friends and you keep getting dragged off by chicks.
No, really.
Anyway, you can do this anywhere. You can open with it at the start of the night. You can open with it at the end of the night.
Incidentally, I have never had a bad reaction from a woman when doing this. Ever. Even if you accidentally slip into sleaze, she'll just walk off, but this rarely happens.
This one hooks like a motherfucker.
The other thing is this- if she walks off in shock, do not follow her. Let her go. She'll be back in about 15 seconds. Maximum 60.
DO YOU STARE AT HER AFTER YOU ASK?
You never stare. You look. Empty your mind, young grasshopper. Read the Power Of Now. You lock eyes with her. That is all - but then again I would argue that you lock eyes with her all the time. In fact, I would argue that you lock eyes with everyone you interact with in your entire life.
Just look at her. Calm. Level. Like your question is completely normal and in context. She will break.
IF SHE SAYS 'NO' AND I JUST STICK IN THERE, WILL SHE COME AROUND?
Yes.
In fact, it is awesome when she says no... because it gives you an opportunity to demonstrate a reality stronger than cobalt steel.
Here's what you do.
If she says no, you say "ok" in the same tone of voice as if you had offered her a prawn cocktail crisp and she had said "no thank you." Then you ask her what she thought of Pirates of the Caribbean 3 or something.
Or you talk about the burger you had for breakfast or what the weather was like last tuesday or what-fucking-ever.
In 10 minutes (tops) she'll be on your face.
SHOULD I DO THIS IN FRONT OF HER FRIENDS?
No.
You CANNOT do this if a girl is within earshot of her friends. If it's a club, you can do it with only a few feet of distance between her and her mates because of the loud noise.
The important thing is that she feels that it is a private exchange for EXACTLY the reason you think. If you do this in front of her mate she will look at you like you're scum and blow you out.
Amazingly, this never, ever happens, ever, if she is on her own.
Chicks.
Gotta love em.
WHAT IF I STARED AT HER BOOBS? WOULD THAT WORK?
No. Remember - this is COOL. You deliver this in the same tone as if you're asking about the weather. Not a throwaway line, mind...
Just a genuine, totally normal, direct question.
Boom, mofos.
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOOD FOR ONE NIGHT STANDS... BUT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE OF THESE CHICKS, COULD YOU?
Of course you can. Stop asking stupid questions.
You can start a relationship off a purely sexual one night stand no problem.
As Tim once said - there's a time and a place for emotional connection.
After sex.
CAN I WAIT FOR A FEW MINUTES INTO THE CONVERSATION TO USE THE LINE?
NO.
It loses power and effectiveness rapidly the longer you wait to say it.
The power and impact of this derives from the fact that you are balls out opening with the option of sex.
You can say it later, of course - and she might not freak out. You may get a makeout, and it will increase attraction as long as you can hold your shit and cope with fallout - but if you do it later she also might just bolt.
If you're looking for an instant hook up, do this fast.
I THINK LOOKS WILL MATTER HERE. (JUST MY 2 CENTS)
Your two cents are worthless.
Dude, I'm not here to debate abstract concepts of female attraction and how they relate to looks.
I'm telling you that this works regardless of what you look like, because that is what I have seen, over and over again, with my own eyes.
Quasimodo could pull this off if he had big enough balls.
I don't care if you believe me. This works. I know because I've done it, I've seen others do it.
At no point have looks ever been even an incidental factor in the success of this line.
I have consistently pulled model hot chicks with this while looking like a tramp.
Anyone who thinks looks matter... even in the slightest... when it comes to being good with girls, is a fucking pussy ass chode. If you think differently, you are a chode, and your opinion is irrelevant.
Now sit in the corner, and think about what you've done.
FAIR ENOUGH, LOOKS DON'T MATTER. BUT I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE BELIEF THAT ANY SOBER GIRL WOULD FUCK A GUY ON THE SAME NIGHT SHE MEETS HIM.
Hahahahaha! Oh! AHAHAHA! OOOOOOH!
*pants*
OOOOOOOOHOHOHOHO!
AHAHAHAHA!
Ahahahaha.
Haha.
Hee.
Hoo.
Hnnnnnnnnng.
They will dude. Your beliefs are irrelevant. They will.
Oh yes.
They will.
GROUP APOCALYPSE
Rock up to two chicks and say exactly the same thing, with this interesting twist:
"Hey, how's it going."
They will say
"Fine."
You then say
"Cool. What are you doing later?"
They will say
"I'm not sure."
You then say
"What are the chances of you two coming back to mine for a threesome?"
Then you hold.
Hold.
HOLD....................
HOLD IT MY SON..........................
HOLD THE FUCKING LINE..................
Boom.
That 'Boom' incidentally, is the heart of the S+A system.
It's where you see it in a girl's eyes. Shock, and awe.
It is the most rewarding thing you'll ever see after years in the wasteland being ignored by women. Most men go their whole lives and never see it. It's amazing. After you've seen it a few times it changes you, changes your whole outlook on life. It's like something connects, deep inside you. Some long-lost circuit. After I'd done this a couple of times my whole voice changed, became more resonant. It was awesome.
So that, my friends, is the Apocalypse Opener. The only chat-up line I ever found that actually works. I've spoken about it at length, because I want to hammer home one point.
It works. It's not THAT hard to do. You DO NOT NEED to be amazing at this to pull this off. If you can blurt it out and hold your nerve, you can do this.
Now get out there, and nail this shit to the ground.
'Jealous girlfriend' my hairy white ass.
Peace out
(Credit - Ciaran RSD)
Wednesday, 9 January 2008
Secret kino spot technique
Here's a relative newcomer to MASF, who will always be remembered for his one overwhelming contribution to club game. A technique that rapidly amps attraction and gets women horny. The secret kino spot technique.
Alright, if you read the following, and do what I say, you will have a girl turned on in seconds. What you do afterward is up to you.
When I was 19, and a newborn in the club scene, I was watching an episode of Howard Stern with a guest on the show named Dr. Orgasm. The guy claimed to know a spot below a woman's hips that, when touched with the right pressure, can turn her on madly...and bring her to orgasm. Of course on the show, Howard deflates the guy's method by having him test it on some jacked-up super-dyke. He can't get her to cum, and Howard says he's phony. But the guy was VERY convinced that he was right, and told everyone to "try it on a girl when you are dancing with her in a club".
So what do I do the next time I'm out?
That's right, tried it on a girl in the club.
What happened?
First, after a few seconds of touching it while dancing, the girl turns to me and tells me I'm a good dancer for a white boy (funny cuz she's white too), and that she didn't expect it from me.
Nice.
A few beats later she starts getting into it big time, and starts to bend over like I'm fuckin' her doggy style. (And overall that's what club dancing is--simulated sex with your clothes on...you just act like you are fucking.)Everyone on the dancefloor is looking at me go at it with her, and all the while I'm thinking, "Holy shit, I feel like some kind of porno star right now!" Then, she wraps her arms around my neck and starts in with the tongue-down.
Here begins my use of the fail-proof dancing tactic that has almost never let me down. If I don't get tongue and/or pussy off it, the girl usually still thinks I'm hot, and I almost always get a number (boo-hoo, a number).
On with the description of how to do this, shall we?
1. Get on the dancefloor with a girl
To open a set on the dancefloor, find a girl who's already dancing. I'm talking, really into the moment. As you walk by, start grinding your butt against hers playfully. She won't expect it, and if she is cool, she will laugh at your cocky/funny humor. If she laughs, turn around, smile at her big, take her hand and pull her close to you. It's C/F with elements of direct game, you gotta man-up and do this shit.
Also, you can do a variation where you catch her dancing and you come by and start grinding your ass against her pelvis. This actually works better, because it is funnier...and it gives that pussy of hers a little tingle.
With anything, there's always some failure rate, so if she pushes you away, just walk away. If she slaps you, keep in mind, it's a girl...no need to turn around and knock her out. Both of these things have happened to me before, it's no big deal. Move to the next girl.
And too, beware of the good ol' AMOG, who's ready to pop up with his stern Mr. Bigshit look that let's you know these bitches are with him. Mmm'KAY?
The greater the risk, the greater the reward. Try it and you'll see.
Moving right along...
2. THE MAGIC SPOT
So where exactly is the magic spot you ask? It's simply a PRESSURE POINT right below her hips on the sides of her ass. The pressure point is connected to nerve endings that go right to her CLIT, and get her hot really fast when pressed firmly in a circular motion.
Picture her ass in front of you. The magic spots are right about at the 10 and 2 position (like the steering wheel).
3. Get into position
You know, club dancing is pretty much NOT REAL DANCING so you just have to know how to FUCK in order to do it good. When you pull her over to you, turn her so that her ass is right against your pelvis. Not your DICK. Your PELVIS. Her ass shoud be resting right where your pubic hair is, so if you have a big chub, don't worry, she won't feel it (not until she turns around after dancing a few minutes and gives it a big squeeze! Love it...).
Onward...
Your hands are not to be GROPING or doing anything that all the other joe-schmoe wannabe players are doing on the dancefloor. Your hands and fingertips are resting lightly on the sides of her ass, just below her hips on THE SPOT. As you move your hips to the beat with her, press into that spot below her hips and move your fingertips in a circular motion.
DO NOT put your hands anywhere else. No touching her waist, her stomach, her breasts, or directly on her ass cheeks. Just move your pelvis with the motion of her ass movement...just like fucking from behind. It should start off like a flowing wave motion, but you should pick it up so that your pelvic bone is hitting her ass just like it would be if you were having sex doggystyle.
This very hard for me to explain, but I want to get it right, cuz it's money.
So all you have to do is dance with her in the position I described above and touch that spot firmly, in a circular motion.
If you get advanced with it, you can do a little front-to-front action, and if you have touched the spot enough to where you know she's horny, you can experiment with holding her hands while you are grinding your hips together.
Just remember, your hands should be in the ass/hip region at all times, fingertips on that spot. NOT at the girls waist, or some other shit. After doing this, you will see just how many other guys have their hands in the wrong places on a girl. And it's good they are, cuz it's better for you and me!
4. WHEN SHE GETS TURNED ON
Love this part. After she gets a feeling with you, she'll probably turn around with a sultry look on her face. This is the point where you look deep into her eyes and kiss her. Then, pull her hair back and kiss her neck. From there, you're on your own. I say take her off the dancefloor and into the photo booth, if the club has one. Bring a condom while you're at it.
So to wrap this whole thing up I want to note a key point that has happened with my experience with this.
A few times, before I started actively kissing the girls at the turn-around point (CRITICAL WINDOW BY THE WAY), the girl would turn around, look me in the eyes, and say, "Thanks for that," and I say, "For what?" and the girl says, "For dancing...I liked it".
SOOOOO....
I don't know...maybe that Dr. Orgasm guy on Howard Stern was right, and these girls actually went off while dancing, or just got really wet. All I know for sure is that when I do this, the girl GETS INTO IT LIKE SHE'S FUCKING. It's unbelievable. She gets completely turned on and loses control. I love it!
You don't need salsa dancing to get what you want, just do this and cut to the chase.
Try it out...you'll be laughing your ass off when you are boning a hot girl who you've never even talked to!
Enjoy.
(Credit Klutch -MASF)
Alright, if you read the following, and do what I say, you will have a girl turned on in seconds. What you do afterward is up to you.
When I was 19, and a newborn in the club scene, I was watching an episode of Howard Stern with a guest on the show named Dr. Orgasm. The guy claimed to know a spot below a woman's hips that, when touched with the right pressure, can turn her on madly...and bring her to orgasm. Of course on the show, Howard deflates the guy's method by having him test it on some jacked-up super-dyke. He can't get her to cum, and Howard says he's phony. But the guy was VERY convinced that he was right, and told everyone to "try it on a girl when you are dancing with her in a club".
So what do I do the next time I'm out?
That's right, tried it on a girl in the club.
What happened?
First, after a few seconds of touching it while dancing, the girl turns to me and tells me I'm a good dancer for a white boy (funny cuz she's white too), and that she didn't expect it from me.
Nice.
A few beats later she starts getting into it big time, and starts to bend over like I'm fuckin' her doggy style. (And overall that's what club dancing is--simulated sex with your clothes on...you just act like you are fucking.)Everyone on the dancefloor is looking at me go at it with her, and all the while I'm thinking, "Holy shit, I feel like some kind of porno star right now!" Then, she wraps her arms around my neck and starts in with the tongue-down.
Here begins my use of the fail-proof dancing tactic that has almost never let me down. If I don't get tongue and/or pussy off it, the girl usually still thinks I'm hot, and I almost always get a number (boo-hoo, a number).
On with the description of how to do this, shall we?
1. Get on the dancefloor with a girl
To open a set on the dancefloor, find a girl who's already dancing. I'm talking, really into the moment. As you walk by, start grinding your butt against hers playfully. She won't expect it, and if she is cool, she will laugh at your cocky/funny humor. If she laughs, turn around, smile at her big, take her hand and pull her close to you. It's C/F with elements of direct game, you gotta man-up and do this shit.
Also, you can do a variation where you catch her dancing and you come by and start grinding your ass against her pelvis. This actually works better, because it is funnier...and it gives that pussy of hers a little tingle.
With anything, there's always some failure rate, so if she pushes you away, just walk away. If she slaps you, keep in mind, it's a girl...no need to turn around and knock her out. Both of these things have happened to me before, it's no big deal. Move to the next girl.
And too, beware of the good ol' AMOG, who's ready to pop up with his stern Mr. Bigshit look that let's you know these bitches are with him. Mmm'KAY?
The greater the risk, the greater the reward. Try it and you'll see.
Moving right along...
2. THE MAGIC SPOT
So where exactly is the magic spot you ask? It's simply a PRESSURE POINT right below her hips on the sides of her ass. The pressure point is connected to nerve endings that go right to her CLIT, and get her hot really fast when pressed firmly in a circular motion.
Picture her ass in front of you. The magic spots are right about at the 10 and 2 position (like the steering wheel).
3. Get into position
You know, club dancing is pretty much NOT REAL DANCING so you just have to know how to FUCK in order to do it good. When you pull her over to you, turn her so that her ass is right against your pelvis. Not your DICK. Your PELVIS. Her ass shoud be resting right where your pubic hair is, so if you have a big chub, don't worry, she won't feel it (not until she turns around after dancing a few minutes and gives it a big squeeze! Love it...).
Onward...
Your hands are not to be GROPING or doing anything that all the other joe-schmoe wannabe players are doing on the dancefloor. Your hands and fingertips are resting lightly on the sides of her ass, just below her hips on THE SPOT. As you move your hips to the beat with her, press into that spot below her hips and move your fingertips in a circular motion.
DO NOT put your hands anywhere else. No touching her waist, her stomach, her breasts, or directly on her ass cheeks. Just move your pelvis with the motion of her ass movement...just like fucking from behind. It should start off like a flowing wave motion, but you should pick it up so that your pelvic bone is hitting her ass just like it would be if you were having sex doggystyle.
This very hard for me to explain, but I want to get it right, cuz it's money.
So all you have to do is dance with her in the position I described above and touch that spot firmly, in a circular motion.
If you get advanced with it, you can do a little front-to-front action, and if you have touched the spot enough to where you know she's horny, you can experiment with holding her hands while you are grinding your hips together.
Just remember, your hands should be in the ass/hip region at all times, fingertips on that spot. NOT at the girls waist, or some other shit. After doing this, you will see just how many other guys have their hands in the wrong places on a girl. And it's good they are, cuz it's better for you and me!
4. WHEN SHE GETS TURNED ON
Love this part. After she gets a feeling with you, she'll probably turn around with a sultry look on her face. This is the point where you look deep into her eyes and kiss her. Then, pull her hair back and kiss her neck. From there, you're on your own. I say take her off the dancefloor and into the photo booth, if the club has one. Bring a condom while you're at it.
So to wrap this whole thing up I want to note a key point that has happened with my experience with this.
A few times, before I started actively kissing the girls at the turn-around point (CRITICAL WINDOW BY THE WAY), the girl would turn around, look me in the eyes, and say, "Thanks for that," and I say, "For what?" and the girl says, "For dancing...I liked it".
SOOOOO....
I don't know...maybe that Dr. Orgasm guy on Howard Stern was right, and these girls actually went off while dancing, or just got really wet. All I know for sure is that when I do this, the girl GETS INTO IT LIKE SHE'S FUCKING. It's unbelievable. She gets completely turned on and loses control. I love it!
You don't need salsa dancing to get what you want, just do this and cut to the chase.
Try it out...you'll be laughing your ass off when you are boning a hot girl who you've never even talked to!
Enjoy.
(Credit Klutch -MASF)
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